"The Batmoblie/Tumbler was so insanely awesome I can't get over myself. When the first pre-production images were realeased of it I was among the many who said "WTF?!" but alas, it all makes so much sense. It can go a billion more places then where the other sports car versions of the batmobile can go, and is just so much more modern/radder. Why have a nice clean paved road to the batcave when you can go through the forest and jump over a ditch and through a waterfall?"

I like your style.

That was complete Batmobile ownage. No question about it.

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Right on man! Begins truly was the beginning of Batman! I could see that movie at least like 5 more times and not get bored of it. I will be going insane waiting for the second one to come out, THE JOKER!

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I loved it too. Whoever designed the inner city (with the Wayne Towers the center of it all) should get an Oscar!!
Only thing bothering me were 2 things.
1. Ra's Al Ghul_ Muddafukkin' cameo or what??!? Not NEARLY enough screentime.
2. Burning down Wayne Manor-That I felt was too extreme, what did he have left to salvage of the Wayne dynasty?? If you look at the scene, it looks like nothing was left(barely).
But, aside from that, it is up there with the real Batman, which, IMO, is the animated one.

I hope Nolan directs another Batman movie!! It was awesome!!

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Beautifuly acted, written, and filmed.
And the Jokers in the next one *grins broadly*

To quote the free online comic dork tower ([link]) "Batman Begins.... not to suck again."

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I haven't seen it yet, but I'm takin my lady to see it within the next week.

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Damn straight, man! Even Burton can't touch this movie! I've been hearing a few people try and criticize the movie on IMDB, but they're full of it. Begins was the greatest Batman movie, not of the series, but of all time! Christian Bale was perfect as Batman, his performance was powerful, driven, and meticulous! He took himself and the role of Batman far more seriously than (ugh!) Clooney, he was more lively than Kilmer, looking back on it now, and he was taller than Keaton (he's got other things over Keaton, but that's all I can think of at the moment ^_^ ). One thing I liked was his reaction to leading a double life after that first night:
Bruce: "What do billionares do?"
Alfred: "Well, they drive fast cars, date beautiful women, buy things that aren't for sale."

On that note, Michael Caine was the most perfect Alfred, with his dry wit and fatherly attitude towards Bruce. In this movie, the supporting cast was far more proactive than in the last four, and Caine's Alfred is a good example of this. The fact that he actually went out of his way to save him from a fire is more that Michael Gough did when Riddler and Two Face came and tried to blow his brains out. Gary Oldman was fantastic as James Gordon, and unlike Pat Hingle in the previous four movies, he actually got involved in the action, and helped move the story forward, which gives me the same kind of satisfaction that Caine's Alfred does. Morgan Freeman was excellent as Lucius Fox, naturally, as Bruce's own personal "Q" and that "don't ask, don't tell" policy regarding his use of that Waynetech gear was very interesting to me. I used to wonder why nobody ever asked Bruce where all that money goes. Also, Lucius' difficulties with Rutger Hauer's character was very well done, like businessmen in the real world tend to be. Katie Holmes was also very good as Bruce's love interest. I've never watched Dawson's Creek or any of that crap, so I didn't know what to expect. Her relationship with Bruce Wayne was very sweet, her drive to do the right thing and put away the criminals in her position as Assistant DA mirrored Bruce's own resolve as Batman, and her decision at the end was very sensible, and good for the story.

I loved Liam Neeson as Ducard, and the teacher/student friendship that Bruce makes with him. The scene where Bruce blows up Rha's temple, Bruce's refusal to kill the prisoner and his rescue of Ducard blow away the murderous tendencies of Keaton and Kilmer in the first three, showing that Batman distinguishes between vengeance and justice, and how it makes him better than his enemies.

Cillian Murphy was also excellent as Dr. Crane and the Scarecrow. I'd heard that he had auditioned for the lead role, but I'm glad he got to be the villain. His poor man's Scarcrow mask was not only creepy, it was also totally logical, like it really came out of a nuthouse, and the fact that he didn't have a full costume made perfect sense to me, since the mask was the only real focus when a victim was drugged on fear toxin, making a full suit unnecessary. It actually reminded me of Michael Palin's dead baby mask from the movie "Brazil," where he played an interrogation expert. It was creepy enough to sustain itself. I also liked the idea that the Scarecrow was head of Arkham Asylum, experimenting on inmates with his fear toxin and driving people mad when they irritate him so he could keep them under his control. I felt that was an excellent interpretation of the character, one far more interesting than the version I'd seen in the comics.

I have to say though, my unsung favorite (as in the guy nobody seems to be giving any props to for his work) is Tom Wilkinson, as Carmine Falcone. After all those colorful bat-rogues from the previous movies, it was great to see Batman beat the crap out of an old fashioned gangster, and the scene with Bruce and Falcone at the restuarant was like something out of the Untouchables. It showed exaclty the kind of villain that Batman originally set out to bring down before being flooded with loonies in costumes, and I actually wanted to pummel him myself! And in his last meeting with the Scarecrow, I could sense that was the point when the gangster was replaced by the masked monster.

When the movie was being hyped over the spring, my English teacher (the one referenced in my Mythic journal) kept going on about the Batsuit and how it was a return to the days of Keaton, which I didn't think were really all that bad in and of themselves. He didn't like the idea of another rubber Batsuit and wondered why they didn't go with the old-school spandex of Batman: Dead End. I have to say, I felt he was taking himself too seriously. Of all the things that differed the movies from the comics, the rubber Batsuits never really bothered me so much. I always felt that they were more sensible and offered more protection than spandex did, and I was glad to see this explained in the context of the story. I loved watching Bruce and Alfred plan and assemble the suit and the arsenal, and I especially loved the Tumbler, for all the reasons listed above. It just made more sense than the fancy sports car/convertible versions of the past. The realistic explanations behind Batman and his tools gave this film an edge over it's predecessors.

Overall, the movie was perfect. As much as I enjoyed Tim Burton's gothic style, Chris Nolan's more realistic style was refreshing, and it made Batman seem all the more extraordinary. There were some moments of humor, but they weren't campy like the last one and didn't disrupt the flow of the movie, which I was afraid might happen, but my fears were unfounded. And yes, that hint of Joker at the end made my spirits soar! Batman Begins is the perfect Batman movie, and this team must come back for a sequel!

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dude, finally someone who liked it as much as i did!
your right about it all. Liam was just plain awesome. one of the best "villians" ive seen in a while. so is the scarecrow! why didnt you say anything about him, man! that first scene wit him as the scarecrow is one of my fav scenes of all time!! i also loved how batman went all alien-like in the scene when hes taking down the guys at the docks. that was so origional as far as the batman movies go. i was watching an interview with bail and he was talking about how he approached batman as a mentally cracked guy and how he would dawn the costume as a beast, which totally worked throughout the whole film, which was also the reason for the voice.


its funny how gary oldman was the only gordan who looked like gordan

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and by animated, im assuming you mean the origional, which would have to agree wit ya, or the new one, which i would have to rip off your balls and shove them up your ass!

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